A deep dive into Moritz Seider and what he means to the Detroit Red Wings

After a Calder Trophy or Rookie of the Year, the season in 2021-22, Moritz Seider seemed destined for stardom. In 2022-23, we saw regression. Some observers argue that this season is an even further nose-dive into the depths of despair. On the other hand, Detroit Red Wings fans grow more defensive of Seider with each statistic that makes him look less than the stellar player they watch on a nightly basis. Who's right?

As the 2019 National Hockey League (NHL) draft approached, I watched the Detroit Red Wings’ equivalent of Simba returning to Pride Rock. I had a similar feeling to most Red Wings fans, I reckon. 

Nostalgia, excitement, and hope eclipsed me.

Watching The Captain, our Red Wings’ captain, return and walk up to the podium was a scene for the ages. The Yzerplan, dubbed by Red Wings General Manager (GM) Steve Yzerman, by got off to a wild start to say the least.

Detroit Red Wings defenseman Moritz Seider shocked many, at the time.

I quickly found out that researching for any draft is a monumental task. Blindly, I fumbled through prospect profiles and draft boards for hours on end. It was about as effective as nailing jello to a tree.

A German player intrigued me while perusing Dobber Prospects.  Tony Ferrari, our favorite draft analyst, penned the following (published May 29, 2019):

“Being a high-end draft prospect coming from the German top league DEL is rare. Being an elite blue-line prospect coming from that league is even less likely. Moritz Seider is an intriguing player because of his tools and the lack of a prior precedent in his situation. The right-shot player is a solid two-way defender who is developing high-end skills one both ends of the ice.”

I thought that this player sounded perfect for the Red Wings. Then, I reviewed his public draft rankings (pulled from the link above): 

Moritz Seider Draft Rankings
- No. 19 per Cam Robinson
- No. 21 per TSN/Bob McKenzie
- No. 11 per HockeyProspect.com
- No. 17 per Future Considerations
- No. 26 per McKeen’s Hockey
- No. 17 by EliteProspects
- No. 27 by ISS Hockey
- No. 6 by NHL Central Scouting (EU Skaters Only)

Thus, my search for the next great Red Wings player continued.

When the Red Wings drafted Seider, I deferred to Brian Quinn of Impractical Jokers for my reaction, “’Tis Confusion.” 

Comedic relief replaced my confusion in the moments that followed as the reactions were priceless on my TV set and across the internet.

The roller coaster since the 2019 NHL draft for the Red Wings and Seider is an interesting one.

Maybe he’s not the German version of Nicklas Lidström, but I think we all agree he’s a darn good hockey player.

Stats don't always paint the whole picture.

While there are aspects of the statistics that accurately describe Seider’s game from my viewing, there are aspects that aren’t accounted for in Seider’s game. 

As an example, Seider held Connor McDavid to a two-point game on January 11, 2024. Also, he held his countryman, Leon Draisaitl, off the scoresheet entirely. It may have been an overtime loss for Detroit, but was a big game for Seider.

From a Red Wings fan perspective, Seider performed excellently. Whenever McDavid entered the Red Wings’ zone, he faced a brick wall that bit back every shift. Much like Auston Matthews of the Toronto Maple Leafs, illustrated in this video, McDavid seemed frustrated as not a lot went his way with Seider on the ice.

At the same time, Seider didn’t drive play. He was effective with being reactionary. I could see non-Red Wings’ fans having a different reaction to this style of play. 

What seems to be lost on those fans is that Seider played over 25 minutes, the most on either team. More often than not those shifts were against McDavid, who logged over 23 minutes in the game. 

I can’t fathom asking Seider for more effort, skill, or productivity in a game against McDavid, but I suppose I understand an outsider’s mentality in that sense. 

Certain stats reflect Seider positively with some people, like Byron Bader, getting Seider’s impact:

Then, there is the Grind Line Podcast that points out:

In reality, statistics aren’t everything and can’t tell the whole story. 

As important as the statistic is, things like how it’s derived, the things it accounts for, the things it doesn’t account for, definition of its measurements, any possible variables, and so on. Practically anyone can create a stat to support their claims, but it doesn’t make that stat effective or helpful.

Moritz Seiders intangibles hold some weight with the Detroit Red Wings

Some of Seider’s best qualities are intangibles that aren’t quantifiable and aren’t appreciated until someone like Seider is on their team.

In the context the Red Wings and Seider, the CF% and GF% doesn’t account for the level of competition. Regularly, Seider plays the second or third-highest minutes on the team. For reference, Seider has played 1034:46 minutes, which is 156:27 minutes higher than the team's second-highest (Ben Chiarot with 878:19 time on ice.) For anyone wondering, Ben Chiarot has recorded the highest time on ice for those wondering with 749:25. (He’s been great, all things considered, but that topic is for another time and place.)

Seider’s minutes aren’t easy minutes. As with the game against the Oilers, the Red Wings regularly put Seider against the highest level of competition. He gets very few, if any, shifts against lesser competition. Also, Seider doesn’t get many offensive zone shift starts. For example, against the Oilers, Seider started zero times in the offensive zone, once in the neutral zone, and five times in the defensive zone. Chiarot and Jake Walman weren’t far behind, with four shift starts in the defensive zone. This means that not only does Seider face stiffer competition, but he does not start in a favorable zone either. 

Red Wings’ head coach Derek Lalonde is asking a lot of Seider. Maybe it’s justified and will make Seider better in the long run, as Seider has held his head above water this season. However, it may be a bit much at times. 

Changing things up every so often might help, but then we have to think of who takes Seider’s spot in the defensive zone or who has to face McDavid. These thoughts alone scare me as I don’t know who would be the best candidate.

These factors aside, there are aspects of Seider’s game that need to improve. Seider plays much more reactionary than proactively. From the neutral zone to the offensive zone, Seider plays with confidence and seems to have genuine fun. He plays with an edge in the defensive zone, but appears all business. If Seider could bring some of that swag from the neutral and offensive zone. 

Seider is wise enough to not make foolish plays, avoiding a poke and hope mentality. Rarely do I see Seider cheat for anything in any zone and I would expect this trend to continue regardless of how he plays in the defensive zone.

Now, I hear some fans defending Seider from this perspective. I appreciate your love of Seider and dedication to him. I understand that you believe that Seider is perfect. Wish I could have that same mentality, but I see more potential in Seider to unlock.

This opportunity should make it all the more exciting for Red Wings’ fans as they know how much effort Seider puts in on a nightly basis. We see his drive to be the best he can be for his team. To realize there is higher, untapped potential is tantalizing.

My favorite quality of Seider is his learning ability. I joked many times that Seider is a super-human computer and not an actual human. The way he just instantly learns from a mistake is incredible. Very few times have I witnessed Seider make the same mistake twice in his career since joining the Red Wings organization.

As defensemen join the Red Wings in Detroit, they should help alleviate some hard minutes from Seider and lessen his overall workload. In doing so, he should be better rested and face lesser competition at times to have more fun.

Detroit Red Wings may have more help arriving for Moritz Seider in the defense core.

A prospect like Antti Tuomisto may help in the not-so-distant future along with Axel Sandin-Pellikka in the distant future, and players like Shayne Gostisbehere help alleviate some minutes from Seider. However, Seider will likely earn his paycheck playing against the stiffest competition with the highest amount of time on ice. In turn, this means Seider must learn to dictate the game on his terms, not anyone else’s. In my opinion, he’s well on his way. Teams intentionally avoid Seider on the ice whenever possible, as they know he’s one of the most demanding customers. Doing so pressures his defensive partner a bit more than in previous seasons, but it speaks volumes about Seider’s play.

Walman is still a fun, effective player. Throughout the season, he has faced injuries that seemed to hamper his consistency and effectiveness this season. It is completely understandable. As he reaclimates and is able to play regular minutes over the next stretch of games, his overall play should improve. With his injury and illness time, Seider has had different defensive partners. In his career, Seider seems to play his best when he has a consistent defensive partner like Walman or Éric Gélinas, whom he was paired with in Rögle BK of the Swedish Hockey League (SHL). Even more impressively, Seider seems to bring out the best qualities in his consistent defensive partners. Gélinas even earned a contract with the Chicago Wolves of the American Hockey League (AHL), associated at the time with the Carolina Hurricanes, after spending a season paired with Seider.

Although it’s not likely in the future, having a consistent defensive partner like Simon Edvinsson, or a possible candidate in Albert Johansson, William Wallinder, or Shai Buium could help Seider’s overall game and controlling play as teams may not be able to choose a less consistent defensive partner. Having options on the left side is a huge asset, as Seider’s defensive partner seems as important as Edvinsson’s. Remembering when we watched Chiarot and Seider on a defensive pair, I cringe. It was some of the most difficult hockey to watch. So much blame rested on Chiarot’s shoulders, whether right or wrong, I think it’s fair to reflect back and note that blame was shared. 

Sometimes, players just don’t have the chemistry or effective communication, even if a defensive pairing looks perfect on paper.

It’s possible this is another opportunity for Seider to learn from, finding ways to work with a defensive partner even if it’s not his preference and adjusting to give the pairing the best chance to succeed.

These opportunities aside, I think Seider is already an NHL star. Seider is incredible regardless of anyone’s advanced analytics or hockey cards. For Red Wings fans, it’s blatantly obvious, but I can see the confusion for any outsider reviewing Seider’s game. It’s difficult to truly appreciate his gifts unless he’s part of your team.

If you get the time, IceHockeyGIFs posted a masterpiece of over 30 minutes that portrays Seider’s journey so far: 

Seider’s another reason Red Wings fans are so lucky. We know how special Seider is before the rest of the league catches up if they ever do. (Probably not, given the lack of love for Nicklas Lidström.)